ATTN: ITT DISC GM IC?

[SOCR]

Now that I beat the crap out of your mind with Acronyms, a question.

Greatminds and Everminds have some pretty beefy mental abilities, yeah. But how far can these go? In my posts I always feel as if I'm toeing a fine line between creative and godmoding.

If these dragons can assume full control of another with only a fraction of their brainpower, as suggested by the info thread, there would be a huge number of game-breaking things they can do.

Total sensory manipulation of a single dragon, stronger minds multiple.
Blockading telepathic communication
Conscious control of every minute bodily process of self
Insertion into the mind of another in full personality
Locking down some of other's body functions.
Mental scrubbing, scanning, inserting falsified thoughts.
Various potentially deadly mental attacks.
Possibly force a dragon Between, to a chosen destination.

As there are some things I feel Fulmeninith would do immediately on instinct but could really mess with other player's actions, especially telepathic blockading and limited control of their body. Some things would be completely logical and make total sense, but would result in things like Everminds being able to single-handedly attack a small Weyr and have a decent chance at victory, and any violent conflict against a Great- or Evermind would invariably end in the death of the opponent.

I think I've been using decent judgment in my posts, but I'm withholding my next post in Alchioth's 'Flight' because frankly Fulmeninith wouldn't let Alchioth speak to anyone as the Green did in the most recent post. He could clamp down on Alchioth's speech right quick and turn anyone trying to pursue the green temporarily blind. I'm not sure what would be acceptable, and if Greatminds and Everminds are as powerful as we're led to believe, he could probably between himself AND Alchioth to a place very far away from the Weyr at his leisure and convenience.

[akusma]

That's a pretty good point, actually...This happens with Golds and Bronzes too (random note) since they can also command a dragon to not do something, or to do something etc.

[Dragonmage]

SOCR, you make a really good point here. I will have to get Zactura into this thread so we can all work out exactly how much usage of a Greatmind or Evermind's abilities is fair to the other players. We may have to "nerf" them some to keep from breaking the game. It would be no fun for anyone if those with such special characters could god-mod and dictate entirely what happens with other characters. For now, I'd do whatever you want to NPCs that you made up, ask about what you want to do to the NPCs of of other people, and work out what you want to happen with the owners of PCs. Until we have a better handle on power versus gamebreaking and author determination, this should keep us all on a level playing field with regards to what is and isn't fair.

[SOCR]

Glad I could help. Consider me the play-tester lol.

[Zactura]

Shattered can only do so much, y'see--they've merely got enhanced telepathic and whatnot abilities. They can't clamp down on any functions, but what they can do is merely suggest what the dragon/rider/whoever may do, and with the proper mental stimulation, it will happen. In the cases of the Everminds, they merely have a much finer control to this. The best time to suggest and start tweaking with minds is when the subject is unaware, such as when they are asleep or not paying attention.

For the between thing, Shattered can't do that, but once again, suggestion is the key.

Now, blockading telepathic communication--only the most powerful Shattered can do that, but it is possible.

Mind insertion--in varying degrees, only capable by stronger Shattered.

The mental attacks? Well, yeah, that can be possible, but it'll take a lot out of the Shattered doing the attack.


Pretty much, all the Shattered abilities have a sort of charge gauge, and only during optimal conditions or when they've got enough energy can they do some.